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1970s Honda 450 lubrication |
The early official service manual has some great lubrication diagrams in it. They show that the 450 runs oil from the oil pump, through the centrifuge, through the clutch cover, then up through the cylinder casting and head casting via the stud holes on the right side. Because of this, two of the eight acorn nuts atop the studs are sealed using copper washers, while the other six are steel.
All the hand-wringing online about 450 oiling is unfortunate. I was in Honda dealerships when these bikes were new and stayed in dealerships for most of the first 20-plus years I was in the biz. No one back in the day worried about oiling until the forums started to. I have a lot of history with the 450 and have never seen any bad outcome from not waiting "three minutes" before putting it into gear.
That said,
These are the facts and anything beyond this is unnecessary sensationalism bordering on fear mongering.
A note about that centrifuge. Debris in the oil is flung outward against the canister's walls centrifugally. Very quickly, the canister is filled with oil and is thus pressurized, and the backed-up oil is then forced through a pressure maintaining valve in the clutch cover, on its way upward to the cylinder and head, leaving the muck behind. The 175, 350 and 450 of course offer a removable plate through which the canister can be regularly serviced. The 360 twin however doesn't benefit from the removable cover and thus the whole clutch cover must be removed to perform the same maintenance. All old time Honda mechanics have seen these canisters--in both the removable plate models and those lacking the plate--filled with muck as the result of inattention.
One more thing. That pressure valve is a lot more important than people think. I once saw a mechanic do a wreck repair on a 360 twin. This is a model in which the pressure valve is in the clutch cover, not in a removable access plate. While he was tuning it, idling on the floor, the engine seized. It locked up. What happened is he had replaced the clutch cover that had been damaged in the wreck, and he forgot to transfer the pressure valve over to the new clutch cover. True story. And a lesson for all of us in the shop that day.
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